email sent February 21, 2003 --- SICK but true

----- Original Message -----

From: Ken Brown

To: UNDISCLOSED LIST

Cc: Carsten Agger ; Congresswoman Carolyn McCarthy ; Donahue MSNBC ; MoveOn.org ; Senator Schumer ; Senator@clinton.senate.gov

Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 2:19 AM

Subject: SICK but true


A BLACK HISTORY LESSON (The Organized Opposition Blacks have faced throughout US history still exist and is still strong)

The following email was sent to me.  It will be necessary for you to read it before the Black History lesson can begin.  After you finish reading the original then read the critique (in red).  I have deliberately slanted everything to highlight the position stated by the White Supremacists using these same words of patriotism and belief in God.  Its like a double entendre where racism instead of the risqué is implied.

 

----- Original Message -----

From: xxx

To: xxx

Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 10:55 AM

Subject: Fw: Harsh, but True


 

----- Original Message -----

From: xxx

To:  xxx

Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 9:44 PM

Subject: FW: Harsh, but True


 

SOMEONE FINALLY SAID IT.

I think everyone on this planet needs to read this. This was sent by a 78-year old former nun. The thoughts are pure and we all understand the point....

There are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some native Americans, need to understand.

First of all, it is not our responsibility to continually try not to offend you in any way. This idea of America being a multicultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As Americans, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language, and our own lifestyle.  This culture, called the "American Way" has been developed over centuries of struggles, trials, and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom. Our forefathers fought, bled, and died at places such as Bunker Hill, Antietam, San Juan, Iwo Jima, Normandy, Korea, Vietnam...

We speak English, not Spanish, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society - learn our language!"

In God We Trust" is our national motto. This is not some off-the - wall, Christian, Right Wing, political slogan - it is our national motto. It is engraved in stone in the House of Representatives in our Capitol and it is printed on our currency. We adopted this motto because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation and this is clearly documented throughout our history. If it is appropriate for our motto to be inscribed in the halls of our highest level of Government, then it is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools.

God is in our pledge, our National Anthem, nearly every patriotic song, and in our founding documents.  We honor His birth, death, and resurrection as holidays, and we turn to Him in prayer in times of crisis. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture and we are proud to have Him.

We are proud of our heritage and those who have so honorably defended our freedoms. We celebrate
Independence Day, Memorial Day, Veterans Day, and Flag Day. We have parades, picnics, and barbecues
where we proudly wave our flag.

As an American, I have the right wave my flag, sing my national anthem, quote my national motto, and recite
my pledge whenever and wherever I choose. If the Stars and Stripes offend you, or you don't like Uncle Sam, then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet.

The American culture is our way of life, our heritage, and we are proud of it. We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don't care how you did things where you came from. Like it or not, this is our country, our land, and our lifestyle.

Our First Amendment gives every citizen the right to express his opinion about our government, culture, or
society, and we will allow you every opportunity to do so. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about our flag, our pledge, our national motto, or our way of life, I highly encourage you to take advantage of one other great American freedom:


THE RIGHT TO LEAVE!


Another thing: To those who do complain about the usage of words like 'God' and 'American' and speaking
the language of our great nation, TRY GOING TO ANOTHER COUNTRY AND SPEAK AGAINST WHAT YOU DON'T LIKE. YOU WILL MORE THAN LIKELY END UP JAILED OR EVEN KILLED.

In America, you take your right to complain for granted. The more patriotism that is removed from where our children are taught, the less our children will learn about what it is to be an American and our nation's spirit will slowly be killed. Keep patriotism alive.

If you agree, pass this on to other Americans!! It is time to take a stand!!


God Bless America and our Military and our Veterans!!!

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SOMEONE FINALLY SAID IT.

I think everyone on this planet needs to read this (and this). This was sent by a 78-year old former nun.(A nun this old was alive when our Christian Church was still openly teaching that Blacks are an inferior species and that any good that comes from Blacks is a result of the White Blood Whites put into them during centuries of SLAVERY) The thoughts are pure (and sick) and we all understand the point... (yes we do:  Racial purity...)

There are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some native Americans need to understand. (This reference to Foreigners and American Indians gives us a clue as to where the writer is "coming from".)

First of all, it is not our responsibility to continually try not to offend you in any way. (We have always deliberately offended all non-whites) This idea of America being a multicultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. (This is a nation of, by and for White people and it must be maintained as such.) As (White) Americans, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language, and our own lifestyle. (Remember the centuries of fighting to keep down Black Americans, Black American culture, music, society, etc., etc.) This culture, called the "American Way" has been developed over centuries of struggles, trials, and victories (Rape, plunder and pillage --- murder, SLAVERY and deliberate GENOCIDE of Indians and Blacks --- on-going segregation and discrimination) by millions of men and women who have sought freedom (for Whites only).  Our forefathers fought, bled, and died at places such as Bunker Hill, Antietam, San Juan, Iwo Jima, Normandy, Korea, Vietnam...(Blacks were still SLAVES and the Indians were being exterminated for most of the early wars.  Blacks were strongly segregated through WWI & WWII and overtly, then covertly, discriminated against through the rest.  Throughout this entire time many of those forefathers fought "tooth and nail" to keep oppressing Blacks.  That fight is not over --- The Supreme Court is being asked to dismantle affirmative action today at the University of Michigan.  The White Supremacy has always been a part of our culture and that movement is still growing.  They are expanding faster via the internet than Islamic Fundamentalist/Terrorist. )

We speak English, not Spanish, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society - learn our language!" (It is interesting to wonder why we don't speak French since it was the French who saved our ass against the English during the revolutionary war.)  My position here is that everyone in our country should learn at least one other language.  It provides an immediate change in perspective because "every thought is not best expressed in every language".  I have a personal bias in this matter.  I envy the Europeans, most of whom speak several languages. 

In God We Trust" is our national motto. This is not some off-the - wall, Christian, Right Wing (Yes it is. Christian Fundamentalist kicked out of Europe came to America to have their witch trials, commit genocide, start history's longest and cruelest SLAVERY.  They support a death penalty today in a legal system known to be racist and badly flawed while claiming to worship a God whose commandment is "thou shall not kill"), political slogan - it is our national motto. (The God, these SLAVE OWNING Christian Fundamentalist worshipped, says that Blacks were an inferior species.) It is engraved in stone in the House of Representatives in our Capitol (built with SLAVE LABOR) and it is printed on our currency. We adopted this motto because Christian men and women (WHO OWNED SLAVES), on Christian principles (genocide of Native Americans), founded this nation and this is clearly documented throughout our history ("... the more religious the slave master, the more he abused and beat his slaves...", Fredrick Douglas). If it is appropriate for our motto to be inscribed in the halls of our highest level of Government, then it is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools.

God is in our pledge, our National Anthem, nearly every patriotic song, and in our founding documents. ("praise the lord and hang that niggra" --- Remember it has only been a few decades since it was legal to lynch Blacks in the south.) We honor His birth, death, and resurrection as holidays, and we turn to Him in prayer in times of crisis. (I wonder if the slaves were worshipping the same God --- they had to use the same  name -- as the slave master.  The God worshipped by Black Americans has never told us to go out and kill people because they have a different skin color, or for any other reason.  The God that Blacks worship has never told us that we are a superior race entitled to dominate, enslave and/or kill all other races.  The God worshipped by our SLAVE OWNING founding fathers taught that Blacks were an  inferior race designed by God to be enslaved by Whites.  Most of the White Supremacist of today claim to be Christian and still believe in that God.) If God (of slavery) offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God (of Christian Fundamentalist deported from Europe) is part of our culture and we are proud to have Him (You can read this on hundreds of Christian based White Supremacists and other hate websites.).

We are proud of our heritage (of land stealing, SLAVERY and deliberate GENOCIDE) and those who have so honorably defended our freedoms (it's only been in the last few decades that Blacks could be buried in our National Cemeteries). We celebrate Independence Day (Frederick Douglas called it a farce. A day that only Whites could celebrate while Blacks were still ENSLAVED in the south), Memorial Day, Veterans Day, and Flag Day. We have parades, picnics, and barbecues (for many decades lynched Blacks were the main barbecue at picnics in the south) where we proudly wave our flag (White Supremacist and Christian Fundamentalist have always been in the forefront of flag wavers.  I carried the flag when I was in the USAF, which was just about the time our country finally started to allow Blacks to play professional sports.).

As an American, I have the right wave my flag, sing my national anthem, quote my national motto, and recite
my pledge whenever and wherever I choose. If the Stars and Stripes offend you, or you don't like Uncle Sam, then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet. (What offends me is that declared proponents/defenders of White Supremacy like the KKK are allowed to wave our flag.  They are desecrating our flag because they make it clear that they do not believe in our "... All men are created equal... etc, ..." for which I believe our flag now stands.)

The American culture is our (White people's) way of life, our heritage, and we are proud of it. We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change (including not accepting multiculturalism), and we really don't care how you did things where you came from. Like it or not, this is our country, our land, and our lifestyle (and racism is still a major aspect of our lifestyle).

Our First Amendment gives every citizen (except Blacks until the last few decades) the right to express his opinion about our government, culture, or society, and we will allow you every opportunity to do so. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about our flag, our pledge, our national motto, or our (racist) way of life, I highly encourage you to take advantage of one other great American freedom:


THE RIGHT TO LEAVE!  (It has only been three or four decades since Christian Fundamentalist and White Supremacist last tried to export/deport all Blacks back to Africa.)


Another thing: To those who do complain about the usage of words like 'God' and 'American' and speaking the language of our great nation, TRY GOING TO ANOTHER COUNTRY AND SPEAK AGAINST WHAT YOU DON'T LIKE. YOU WILL MORE THAN LIKELY END UP JAILED OR EVEN KILLED. (I have always considered Christian Fundamentalism and Islamic Fundamentalism as pretty much the same.  It has not yet been one century since speaking out against God and/or Racism would get you killed in our country, especially if you were Black.  Speaking out against Allah and/or slavery in Moslem countries will get you killed today, especially if you are Jewish.  Both Fundamentalists believe in terrorism to attain their goals.  In our country Blacks were terrorized by the KKK and are still being terrorized by the police in most of our country.  They have also terrorized abortion clinics and doctors --- bombing clinics, snipers killing doctors from a hit list published on the internet --- to the point that abortion services are no longer available in most of our country.  Another similarity between Christian Fundamentalism and Islamic Fundamentalism is the ease with which they use their death penalties.  They differ only slightly today in the number of crimes for which 'criminals' can be legally murdered by the state.)

In America, you take your right to complain for granted. The more patriotism (God and racism) that is removed from where our children are taught, the less our children will learn about what it is to be an American (who believes in White supremacy) and our nation's spirit will slowly be killed (Whites will lose control and be wiped out). Keep patriotism (and White Power) alive.

If you agree, pass this on to other Americans!! It is time to take a stand!! (It is time for decent people to realize that Black Americans are still facing well organized active opposition in our country.  The Christian Right has taught "the inferiority of Blacks" for centuries.  The apparent alliance between these Christian Fundamentalist and White Supremacist is extremely disturbing now that one of them has hijacked our government and suspended our civil rights.  This has been followed by another attack on Affirmative Action.)

God Bless America and our Military and our Veterans!!! (This is great if you mean the God that Black Folks worship.  It is a curse against non-whites if you mean the God worshipped by our founding fathers and today's White Supremacists and Christian Fundamentalist.  See more of this God in the email below.)

 

----- Original Message ----- email sent September 18, 2002 --- UNDER GOD, HELL NO

From: Ken Brown

To:  XXX

Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 4:19 PM

Subject: Re: Please Vote and Forward


UNDER GOD we have had 400 years of slavery and discrimination. Fredrick Douglas (prominent escaped slave) said that the more religious the slave master, the more he beat (and abused, sexually included) his slaves.  And of course, UNDER GOD we will have NO REPARATIONS.  For more on the culpability of Christianity by Frederic Douglass (http://www.mail-archive.com/brc-news@lists.tao.ca/msg00007.html).

UNDER GOD we have the death penalty in a legal system PROVEN to be badly flawed and racist.  Is this the God that commanded: "Thou shall not kill"?  OBVIOUSLY NOT.  But what could one expect of a group whose symbol is "The Cross" (ancient death by torture device).

UNDER GOD we had the witch burnings of Salem.  We still legislate a twisted morality.  We always have the religious right pushing for a more encompassing police state.  This is the same police state that consistently abuses Blacks.  Since the hijacking of the U.S. Presidency AND (coincidentally?) 9/11, we have had our civil rights hijacked and an unbelievable expansion of the police state.  Now the assholes, who couldn't add 2 + 2 before 9/11, are being given even more power to ignore civil rights whenever it's convenient.

UNDER GOD we have a very large, and growing, number of Christian based, internet connected, White Supremacist Hate groups and other "slavery was right, non-whites (including Jews) are inferior, God says so" organizations.  They preach/teach this to our children on the internet.  Freedom of religion, right?  Well, Not Exactly.

UNDER GOD we are intolerant of some religious beliefs.  Mormon and Muslim religions believe in polygamy.  Polygamy is still illegal in this country.  Religious based white supremacy, OK (legal even for children); Religious based polygamy, HELL NO (illegal for everybody).

UNDER GOD greed is no longer a deadly sin.  Greed is now a virtue in this country.  Greed powers capitalism.  Capitalism controls democracy (it's called plutocracy).  The religious right is not speaking out against greed.  In fact, it appears as though the religious right is in bed with the most greedy of corporate leaders, i.e. They worship the greedy.  It has paid off too.  They've hijacked our government and our rights with money from the greedy.  (Remember Newt hijacked the congress and the senate using illegal money, got caught, got fined --- His Fraudulency, George II hijacked the presidency and our civil rights using money from the greedy.

UNDER GOD Christianity is second only to Islam in the number of people killed and enslaved throughout history.  Their God is Mars in a transparent disguise.  These two religions have killed  more people than all the plagues and natural disasters in history.  Considering what this country did to the Indians and Africans, UNDER GOD IS APPROPRIATE to describe CENTURIES of GENOCIDE and SLAVERY followed by decades of segregation and discrimination.

UNDER GOD represents the very worst of our country, past and present. HELL NO, "UNDER GOD" MUST GO. 

VOTE YES!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 9:42 AM

Subject: Please Vote and Forward


 

 

 

 

 


PLEASE VOTE "NO" AND FORWARD


USA Today is taking a vote on whether the words "Under

God" should be removed from the pledge of allegiance.

You can vote by going to the following web site:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002/06/27/pledge-hold.htm


 

ON THE OTHER HAND THIS FLAG WAVING STATEMENT IS FAR MORE ACCEPTABLE

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Ken Brown

To: TalkBack@CNN.com ; eyewitness.news@abc.com ; prweb@dataovation.com ; Crossfire@CNN.com

Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 3:48 AM

Subject: under God


FEAR OF GOD

The reaction of the believers to the court ruling against the "under God" part of the pledge of allegiance is an example of one reason why "under God" should be removed.  I hear name calling and threats to the life of the individual who brought the case.  I hear the word liberal used like a curse word.  If it weren't for liberals, blacks would still be slaves in this country and other workers would still be working 16 hrs a day, 6 days a week and stores still be closed by law on Sundays.

Then there are those who say that God is in, and part, of our history.  The God of George Washington said that blacks were inferior to whites and should be slaves.  (This is exactly what the white supremist teaches your kids today on the internet.)  Washington owned slaves.  All of our founding fathers owned slaves because their God (in whom we trust) said slavery was OK or a good thing.  Is this the God that decreed the witch burnings of Salem?  Is this the God that directed the genocide against the Indians?  Is this the God worshipped by racist who have discriminated against blacks since this country began right up to this very day?  Is this the God worshipped by those who approve of the death penalty in a known racist injustice system?  Isn't this the God worshipped by those who bomb abortion clinics and put out hit lists on, and murder, doctors who perform abortions  But isn't that the God who commanded:"Thou shall not kill"?  I never could understand pro-life people who favor the death penalty!!??

I was dismayed when the "under God" was inserted.  History shows these people worship a blood thirsty God like Allah.  These people are actually worshipping Mars, the roman god of war, masquerading as God.  They certainly don't worship a god of love like they say. 

Isn't it strange that most racist are religious believers in God.  There is a growing number of people who believe most religious people are racist.  They remember the words of the escaped slave who rose to prominence.  Fredrick Douglas said that the more religious the slave masters, the more they beat and abused their slaves.  Look at the large (and growing) number of Christian Hate Websites on the Internet today sucking in children and telling them God says white people are superior to "mud people" as they call all non-whites.  Aren't these growing numbers of white supremist (in & out of government) worshipping the same God the slave holders (including our founding fathers) of our illustrious past when it was taught in church the blacks are inferior to whites?

Some large modern Christian organizations have recently apologized to all Africans and/or African descendents in the U.S. for the actions of their church in starting and/or perpetuating slavery and for the subsequent discrimination they participated in maintaining.  The press said very little about these apologies.  I note, however, that none these churches has come out for reparations.

"First come the bibles, then come the soldiers" to take our land and enslave our people.  This was the cry of people around the world when referring to Christians and Moslems.  The world wide slaughter and enslavement of people in the name of God is second only to Allah in the innocent people slaughtered and slaves taken and abused. 

Then there is one of the 7 deadly sins, Greed, which is now a virtue in this country.  Look at Enron, Worldcom, and look at the unbelievable executive salaries ($30 million a year and up is common).  Now notice that it is the "religious right" that has allied themselves with the greedy executives.  Yet these are the loudest proponents of "under God"!!??

NO THANK YOU.  I DON'T WANT ANY PART OF THE GOD OF SUCH PEOPLE

The 2nd paragraph below is copied from Introduction to African Civilizations by John G. Jackson.

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